Ron is a Swell Guy

Harris and company refer to the way we write in a manner which can be summarized by our experiences. They state that our writing style comes not from our “discourse community” or our selves, as they see it we can neither write wholly in one manner or the other. Thus our writing must be a combination of all of our communities and ourselves, to say that we create our individual styles because we cannot separate ourselves entirely from our other communities. I agree with them on this point and think that logically it makes sense that we would bring our personality to our community writings, even if it may not be the most appropriate way of writing. Harris makes a good point that there should not be this expectation in academic discourse communities that the way “we” do things is proper and “they” are wrong, instead he thinks we should consider other pedagogues as equally valuable.

I really liked Ron’s excerpt about how other disciplines may not value the freedom offered by his writing course. In my academic experiences freedom is not only impossible, it is downright irrelevant. I have a decent amount of experience in Mathematics and less experience in Computer Science but in both discourse communities the idea of writing “freely’ isn’t possible. I suppose at the highest level of theoretical mathematics this sort of writing might exist but as a student I am not at liege to propose radical papers in an attempt to add to the community. Instead I am expected only to learn what has been discovered through thousands of years of hard work. As such I don’t value the idea of an academic discourse community at all. Honestly, I think this could only ever apply to liberal arts and has no real place in the worlds of Math or Computer Science. The reason I like Math and Computer Science is because there isn’t this sort of grey area of right/wrong, there is a very straight forward right and wrong and only the highest level of experts are allowed to argue otherwise. I do see value in what Harris writes about in other academic communities but I’d like to keep myself distanced from the notions exhibited. Like Ron said “I won’t break out because I have this bad habit, it’s called eating”. I have to say I like Ron, much more so than Harris or Swales, he seems like a swell guy.

As far as the relation between Harris’ ideas and Swales’ I noticed that while Harris does not disagree with Swales neither does he wholly agree. Instead I’d like to think Harris liked Swales’ idea but saw the flaws in it as well. Harris points out that by Swales’ definition leads us to fall back onto a warmly persuasive stance on communities. I think Harris’ main ideas line up with Swales’ but the way Swales addresses them is too unopposed. Without a counter to community the term loses significant meaning and Harris knows that. Overall I think Harris and Swales both make good points about discourse communities and I see no reason why both can’t be right.

Higher Education Communities and You

At current, I am an apprentice of the academic community for Computer Science as well as a member of this Writing and Inquiry community. I lay no claim to be an important member in either community as it is my goal to blend into the environments I am presented as to not draw excessive attention to myself. However I do consider myself an authority amongst both communities and will henceforth share my experiences thus.

As for the Computer Science Society, aka CSS, we share a common goal of learning the ways of programming and understanding how to interact with technology in a progressive manner. The main form of intercommunication appears in emails and moodle announcements for those enrolled in an ITCS class. As such there is not a significant amount of intercommunication however it is present. This participatory mechanism of communication is used as a teaching method most often and grants access to a plethora of resources related to Computer Science and programming in general. The CSS has a large number of genre-specific conventions because there are many coding languages that explored in it such as Java, C++, and Python. As a member of this community I view its practices and values as necessary for the community to thrive, without common coding languages it would be impossible for communication between recipients. As such I believe that the practices and values of the CSS do not only reflect their writing practices, they in fact define them. And it needs to since we bolster over 100 active members in just my class alone.

On the other hand this Writing and Inquiry community that I am a part of consist of mostly verbal communication for its daily communication. It provokes conversational debate over topics that relate to writing practices and inquiries as well as communicating through inquiries and blogs. So far the majority of our intercommunication has been verbal or through blog post. This community is split into relatively small groups of 30 or fewer person classes that interact biweekly in order to further their understanding of writing and inquiries. I personally enjoy this method over larger communities because it engages a sense of camaraderie not felt by larger groups. I don’t believe there are any genre-specific conventions used in this community however the style of writing inquiries could be a convention since we all share a similar method in order to fulfill the requirements of the course. In this community the practices and values are used as methods to enhance writing practices among members, it is a community with the goal of improving its members through enrichment and inquiry.

There are many similarities in CSS and Writing & Inquiry community since they both share a common goal of educating students, however the methods used vary vastly. As such there are many different experiences a lucky college student such as myself can feel while they journey through higher education and I believe that to be immensely important for future success.

Higher Education Communities

At current, I am an apprentice of the academic community for Computer Science as well as a member of this Writing and Inquiry community. I lay no claim to be an important member in either community as it is my goal to blend into the environments I am presented as to not draw excessive attention to myself. However I do consider myself an authority amongst both communities and will henceforth share my experiences thus.

As for the Computer Science Society, aka CSS, we share a common goal of learning the ways of programming and understanding how to interact with technology in a progressive manner. The main form of intercommunication appears in emails and moodle announcements for those enrolled in an ITCS class. As such there is not a significant amount of intercommunication however it is present. This participatory mechanism of communication is used as a teaching method most often and grants access to a plethora of resources related to Computer Science and programming in general. The CSS has a large number of genre-specific conventions because there are many coding languages that explored in it such as Java, C++, and Python. As a member of this community I view its practices and values as necessary for the community to thrive, without common coding languages it would be impossible for communication between recipients. As such I believe that the practices and values of the CSS do not only reflect their writing practices, they in fact define them. And it needs to since we bolster over 100 active members in just my class alone.

On the other hand this Writing and Inquiry community that I am a part of consist of mostly verbal communication for its daily communication. It provokes conversational debate over topics that relate to writing practices and inquiries as well as communicating through inquiries and blogs. So far the majority of our intercommunication has been verbal or through blog post. This community is split into relatively small groups of 30 or fewer person classes that interact biweekly in order to further their understanding of writing and inquiries. I personally enjoy this method over larger communities because it engages a sense of camaraderie not felt by larger groups. I don’t believe there are any genre-specific conventions used in this community however the style of writing inquiries could be a convention since we all share a similar method in order to fulfill the requirements of the course. In this community the practices and values are used as methods to enhance writing practices among members, it is a community with the goal of improving its members through enrichment and inquiry.

There are many similarities in CSS and Writing & Inquiry community since they both share a common goal of educating students, however the methods used vary vastly. As such there are many different experiences a lucky college student such as myself can feel while they journey through higher education and I believe that to be immensely important for future success.